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"As an aside, Gret Baumann-Jung once had told me that Emma Jung had never understood how anyone could lose the joy of life. She herself had to go through so much terrible hardship because of her husband and all the crazy women, but she never lost her joie de vivre. She, Gret, could only explain it like this: Emma must have had a very "young soul," a lot of fresh, available natural energy. He, on the other hand, had a very "old soul.""