"Theiotitus — Hoje às 16:26 There are even authors who talk about "scientific orthodoxy", "orthodox scientism", "scientific fanaticism", "scientific fundamentalism", "scientific extremism"... Atheism and antitheism are on rise because we're living in a time of economical crisis and political crises where most countries are being rotten by decades of neoliberalism and antitheism and neopositivism are ways to protect neoliberalism and capitalism. Theiotitus — Hoje às 16:24 Nowadays science has the same ranking as Abrahamism had centuries ago, this simple Theiotitus — Hoje às 16:16 I mean, science is not a way to understand the gods better, but rather as a way to understand the world in reductionist and materialistic ways. That's the why we have divine sciences, spiritual sciences, theological sciences... Theiotitus — Hoje às 16:10 Despite it's Hellenist, I think it also applies here: "If you gods were real, humans would had already found objective, empirical, and/or scientific proof for you gods..." Zeus said that it is because the scientific method and scientific evidence are developed into things that can only be reductionistically and materialistically proven, they reduce all causes into natural causes, that's how what humans call "laws of physics" and "physics" work. They work at very reductional and material level, not what's beyond that. They say that other dimensions and extraphysics have no effect just because humans were able to explain how the material world works without them, but it doesn't mean it is 100% true or the like. Theiotitus — Hoje às 16:06 I think we can counter scientism, positivism, neopositivism, and antitheism with postmodernism, existentialism, continental philosophy, Marxism, socialism, communism, and leftism Theiotitus — Hoje às 16:04 I don't think Compatibilistic Kemetism is a good thing, I don't think that Religious Compatibilim is a good thing. The thing is the countering on scientism, positivism, neopositivism, and antitheism on the same style as r/antitheistcheesecake Theiotitus — Hoje às 16:03 Like, I struggle with atheist trauma and antitheist trauma. And I often keep thinking about "if gods real, why didn't science prove them?" Theiotitus — Hoje às 16:02 And as in this case "if gods real, why didn't science prove them?" Theiotitus — Hoje às 16:02 You shouldn't become an atheist/antitheist due that, it is just like "if gods real why bad things?" Theiotitus — Hoje às 16:01 It's just dogmatic, atheist fundamentalist, and scientific fundamentalist to think that only scientific evidence, empirical evidence, and objective evidence are valid."

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